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[Kell]

Just wondering if anyone here also listens to 2 the ranting furry comic? I personaly find him funny as can be (if a little... angry at times...) i had listened to his rants on youtube and his website for a year or more when i came across his radio show (actualy only ever put out on the net, far as i know) and got a little more into it. He is basicly an angry gay furry who has taken it apon himself to point out all the stupid people on the planet... Mostly he focuses on the news, and dear lord, its funny stuff, not alot can make me actualy laugh aloud after the first time i hear it.

Anyway, just thought id mention it, to see if anyone here listens to him, and if not, go check him out on youtube or google him or something, he rocks.

[RappyRaptor]

He's a pretty amusing comedian.  I met him a few times, and he signed one of the DVD's I got of him.

[Benjamin]

I rant enough on my own that I tend not to be bothered to listen to people trying to make a hobby or career out of it. I can't say I'm a fan, really.
 
Benjamin

[Kesarra]

I listen to his show when I can. I found him quite awhile back through his music.

[Alex]

I heard of him through another fur, so I checked it out a while ago. He's not that bad I suppose, the shows are uniquely amusing to listen too.

[Harle]

I really liked him for a while, had all his rants on my 'puter and enjoyed listening to them. I followed his livejournal, listened to the show... But as time went on, I found I disagreed with him on more and more, and I realized that he was using his fame to influence people about things that I felt were... well, unfair of him to influence people about, seeing as he is not an expert on them.

He's repeatedly made it clear what he thinks about transgendered people(not good), and without much of an education on the subject. As well as his opinion about medicating mental illness and such.

He can be very funny, and sometimes makes good points, so I hardly think other people should dislike him for reasons like that. But after hearing him several times basically make us transgendered folk out to be sick freaks(even after getting a ton of letters about it), I find it hard to find anything he says funny anymore.

What was even more unpleasant was watching his sycophantic hardcore fans cheering on this kind of thing. They eat up anything he says as raw, unfettered fact, and he takes no responsibility for that.

If he stuck to simple subjects, it'd be fine. But when he treads complex subjects, he starts to talk like he knows what he's talking about, bashes people for things he knows nothing about, and yet.. he's a comic. People take him too seriously, and he takes himself too seriously.

Sigh. I hate to get on a rant about it. It just sucks to have someone you respected at one time, suddenly reveal themselves to not be nearly as cool as you originally thought.

He still has funny stuff. I just can't enjoy it anymore. =(

[Aaeden]

I met 2 a few years back at Conifur 2004, talked with him with my then 'gf' Cozmospark, and basically felt that he was pretty awesome. I listened to his stuff, and I found that I didn't quite agree with everything, but I found it funny on the surface.

Harle, I'm actually troubled to here that he has a fairly negative opinion of transgendered persons, and I'm going to look into that. That puts my opinion of him in a little bit of a different perspective, possibly a bit more. Even if I wasn't transgendered (those of you who aren't aware of that, don't assume that you know which way or why, because it's actually a might bit confusing) I would still have major issues about someone who expressed those feelings.

[Vulpyra]

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[DogboyShugo]

i think someone showed me it once.

[Ayres]

Depending on the topic 2 can be really funny.  His whole bit on how God is a gay dinosaur raver is one of the funniest things I have ever heard.

[Kell]

The way i see it, he has made himself known for saying whatever he thinks is right, speaking his mind about everything and anything (most often loudly) and not caring who he offends.

His viewpoints differ from mine as often as the line up sometimes. He is offencive as hell to just about everyone... but i DO find him funny, i can understand why some people dislike him, but the way i see it, if you can laugh at the things he has to say about some people, you shouldnt really dislike him as soon as something he says reflects on you, no matter the issue.

As for his hardcore fans, iv found a few online and one in person that i just wanted to shoot (the one in person also made a big point out of the fact he was a fur... another reason to remove him) but, well, like 2, i respect their opinions... they just dont make me laugh.

[Harle]

That was something that troubled me at first, Kell. It hardly seemed fair to laugh at him demeaning other people, and then disliking him when his opinions end up offending you...

But I came to realize that was a rather backward way of thinking about it. In all honesty it was never fair to laugh at him demeaning anyone, and him leveling that lack of caring on something that is vitally important not only to me, but to the GLBT movement and even the furry community, just kind of brought that into perspective.

Besides, he's not always misinformed when he demeans ideas or groups of people. Sometimes he has a pretty good understanding of things before he attacks them. This is one of those cases where he's simply being a bigot and no amount of reason has managed to change that.

So while I don't claim that transgender issues are the only time he's gotten something wrong(I've disagreed with him on a lot of things, even things that did affect me, like his opinion about gay pride, which I think is very important, but didn't stop liking him over it), it is a big one. Transgenders are fighting for recognition and rights right now in the same way that gays were fighting for recognition and rights in past decades. And for him to... well, to be a little dramatic; for him to poison an otherwise accepting and tolerant culture - the furry culture, one I joined in large part for the tolerant attitudes - with uneducated, anti-transgender ideology, was a bit too much for me.

[Scani]

I've seen him perform live a couple of times and admitted to being rather amused by both; never listened to any of his shows.

Let's face it; the guy clearly knows how to entertain people, considering how many cons he's performed at and his high profile in the fandom. What irritates me more are the fanboys who cling on to pretty much every word that he says as if it's gospel.

Though I'm pretty sure half of the stuff he says is calculated to elicit some sort of a reaction and he may or may not mean what he says. Take it in that light and I really don't think it's worth getting worked up over. He's even admitted as such at a comedy workshop him and Kage did at Feral! - when you're on stage, know your audience.

[Harle]

Though I'm pretty sure half of the stuff he says is calculated to elicit some sort of a reaction and he may or may not mean what he says. Take it in that light and I really don't think it's worth getting worked up over. He's even admitted as such at a comedy workshop him and Kage did at Feral! - when you're on stage, know your audience.

If that were the case, it wouldn't really be an issue. But in this particular case, it's come up numerous times on the show, even in response to letters, and he's even written in his LJ about it(I've actually personally argued with him on his LJ about it). Those aren't acts, that's just him being him.

[Trauron]

I've honestly never heard of the guy before. o.o

[Kell]

Search him on youtube, i highly sugest eather his america or global warming rants, they are funny.

[sulli]

neer hurd of the guy untill i looked him up on youtube, he has some good points but like a few others have said, i dont agree with people just speaking there minds. i listened to a few of his stuff and found each one worse then the one before it. he has a few good points, but that is about it.

but each person is alowed there own opinion, we each have one, and if we dont agree with it, o well.

[Lady Serpent]

Wula:  Heh, heh.  Good times.  I didn't get a few of his more obscure references either, but I think Dane Cook puts it well when he made that joke about going on and on with something until just one person in the whole crowd gets it in the end.  : )

2's made me laugh more than once.  He can be rough around the edges (as most comedians can be sometimes, depending on their subject matter and the person listening) and it's no good that certain people take him so seriously sometimes, but for the majority he's just a good comedian if you can appreciate that kind of ranting-type humour.  Some comedians would offend me slightly with some of their content, but at some point one just learns to laugh at themselves or take it with a grain of salt.  Sometimes people have different viewpoints and sometimes the messages they put across aren't ones everyone can agree with, but there's not much that can be done about it a lot of the time, and no need to do anything about it for the most part either (they're still going to poke fun at things; they're comedians), so being too concerned about it might just be bad for our stress levels.

Cheers,
-Lady Serpent

[Aurifer]

I've heard a couple rants, but I just never liked him. I prefer that subtler play-on-words humor and incongruity, like in Monty Python.

On the topic of him offending people: The thing about shooting down things like religion and people's fear of sexuality is that those are two very stupid things, and deserve to be shot down; that's half the fun. Everything else, like gay jokes or jew jokes or blonde jokes, or any minority joke, must be told from a purely comedic standpoint, which 2 doesn't seem to do. He'll also target things that AREN'T stupid, the way he targets the stupid things.


Also, can you call him Two instead of 2? Does he get mad?